Subject: The kids Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:25 pm Glancing around the FBI files this afternoon something caught my eye. In File 2 page 15, it clearly states that an eight year old witness identified someone as being the possible Stine shooter. They supply a list of 5 names for fingerprint comparison, and then add the bit about the eight year old at the end on page 15. It clearly has a name blanked out which looks rather small. Clearly this was one of the kids from across the street (I presume). I wonder who he identified and when, and I wonder if it was dismissed because of his age. I have talked to the Robbins kids extensively and they are a remarkable couple of kids. ...Some background... This is an upperclass neighborhood (Duh!) The Robbins father was (maybe still is) a renowned surgeon. At the time of the murder, the senior Robbins was about a block away attending a formal dinner at the Belgian Embassy. You can begin to get the status and education of the family. The kids (Lindsey and Rebecca were 16 and 13 Respectively) were having friends over for TV, Popcorn, games, etc. There was no alcohol as some have suggested. As both Robbons kids were the oldest, their statements were the given the most weight. Also they were the least traumatized by the event. One of the kids (not sure which) noticed a cab parked outside (in that now famous spot) with the interior lights on. (I have to insert my personal experiences here.. In the late 60's the American cars were large and roomy. I drove an identical police car many years ago and can tell you the interior dome light was very bright. It was even brighter when you removed the opaque plastic lens that covered the bulb. We (police) did it so we could more easily read/write reports in the car, and I noted that cabs also removed these lens covers for the same reasons: to be able to read/write reports, trip tickets, make change for passengers, etc. So when Lindsey told me that the light inside the car was like a spotlight, it was so bright... I knew what he meant (even though he didn't). To continue...the first kid at the window sain the driver looked "sick, or something". Lindsey and Rebecca went to the window and saw the driver laying across the front seat, head toward the passenger door. His head was in the lap of another man (passenger). Rebecca saw blood and said out loud, "he's stabbing that man." She was seeing blood on the victim and saw the glint of a knife, so she assumed a stabbing was taking place. (No shots were heard by anyone) We know now that Z was cutting off a large piece of Stein's shirt with the knife. At this time, lindsey went downstairs to get a better look at what was happening, while one of the kids upstairs called the Police. Downstairs, the lights were off, so Lindsey knew he could not be seen from the outside. He got close to the window and watched his actions. He was shortly joined by Rebecca. They both watched and observed in silence as Z pushed the driver to an upright position behind the steering wheel, exited the car and walked around the rear of the car and opened the drivers door. Stein had fallen over onto the seat and Z pulled him back up into the seated position and had some difficulty keeping him upright. Once upright, he was seen to have a rag, or something like a handkerchief and began to wipe down the door area and leaning over the driver, part of the dashboard. Whe he was finished, Z calmly walked to Cherry St. and walked North. Not many know this, but Lindsey (being 16. feeling immortal, and beleiving the susp to be armed with only a knife) ran out his door to see where Z was going. He ran to the corner of Cherry and watched as Z continued his casual pace right up to the corner of Jackson & Cherry. At this exact point, the first SFPD car arrives with two officers. One, Palesetti, approached Lyndsey and tried to extract what was happening. The other officer went to the cab and found the bloody victim. While Palesetti asking questions, Lyndsey was trying to explain that the susp was in sight on Cherry St. By the time Palesetti got the point, they both looked and the Z was gone. The assumption was Z continued North into Presidio Park and the resultant search extensively covered this area. Palesetti followed a different path East on Jackson in the event Z had turned East. What happened next is for another story. But, I want to tell you how the sketches came about. Within 48 hrs of the murder, Tochi had recruited a young uniformed cop named Juan Morales, who was said to be a good artist. He asked him to talk to the kids and see if he could work-up a composite of the susp. Morales sat down with all the kids and slowly developed the first sketch. Most of his input he took from the two oldest (L&R). Within a day or so, someone (not sure who) decided it was a bad idea to have multiple people contribute to a composite. So Morales sat down with the kids again and after a time, determined that Rebecca was the most artistically inclined, and the most observant of facial features. So, he did the final sketch from only Rebecca. When done, all the kids looked at it individually and agreed that was VERY close to the man they saw on that night. I hope that helps somewhat in clearing up lots of speculation and rumor about the "eyewitnesses." This is the best info taken directly from the kids themselves, albiet, some 40 years later. Both kids (L&R) are remarkable people. Rebecca is a fashon designer in S.F. (artistic eye) and Lyndsey is a successful building Contractor in Marin County. They claim they don't often think about that night, but will never forget it. P.S. Morales quit SFPD a few years later. From my best info, He went through a nasty divorce and moved to Mexico to get away from Alimony & child support. he is believed to still be in Mexico.